Protecting Yourself on Writing Sites
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Before You Leap
There are many writing sites out there; the image above doesn't begin to encompass the field. Most 'writing' sites are NOT what they seem. A large number of 'online writing' sites are merely advertisement handbills in which your prose is placed to decorate the ads.
Writing sites charge advertisers for posting their ads. You get a tiny fraction of this payment, and must depend on the honesty of those sites for an accounting.
Obviously, you could get 1000 hits, the site claim you got 100. Where the site may pay you 3c for every 1000 hits, you don't know how much the advertiser is paying the site for those 1000 hits.
You start from a position of weakness. As far as the site is concerned, you are not writer, you simply supply the 'wallpaper' on which the Ads are hung, and are given whatever pittance seems right to the owners of the site.
Secondly comes the issue of Copyright. Some writing sites claim you retain the copyright to your work, yet don't allow you to remove your articles. Others claim to have bought the rights for some pitifully low figure.
Thirdly, some allow you to write about what you want while others give you assignments and demand you write about what they want.
Fourthly, some have one sided policies which put you in a position of weakness at all times. You lose your basic right to be heard when you can't complain or will be 'punished'.
Fifthly, some writing sites have 'secret' agendas where they push particular views and use your work as a screen to hide their core purpose.
What do you do to protect yourself?
Protecting yourself
Have a copy of your own work posted on your Blog. You can find a list of Blog sites by a simple Google. Post your work there first.
It can be averred that your Blog is your workspace where you perfect your article before publishing. Hence there can be no question about the 'original' nature of your work, especially when you do not publicise it. Hence your Blog is your online Bank of articles. Each article on its own page, pre-posting on a writing site.
Secondly,
understand that when you write a factual article there's just so much
you can do with the facts. If you are writing about Pirates in the Caribbean, so are hundreds of other people. Your article is unique because your point of view is unique.
The names of the Pirates, their ships, the years can't change. how you
put them together can and does. Hence you can write five different
original articles based on the same facts. I can write five different
articles based on the same facts, this is because the facts can't
change, only the interpretations can, how you place them in the article
can.
It is not plagiarism. Plagiarism is when you copy this article and put your name on it. If you copy portions of this article and begin with; "Qeyler wrote; "..... " the quotes give the attribution so you are not copying my work, any more than you would be plagiarising Shakespeare if you used one of his sonnets with attribution to set the tone of your article.
Hence, if you've written about Pirates of the Caribbean on Factoidz and then decide to use the facts to write a different article here, it would not be plagiarism or else every single person in the world would be banned from writing about Pirates of the Caribbean because in 1876 someone wrote a book called "Pirates of the Caribbean."
Read the Terms of Service
The most often told lie; "I have read and agree to your terms of service."
How many of you have even glanced at the TOS; terms of service or TOU; terms of use before clicking that 'I agree?'
Right.
Many writing sites give themselves absolute authority and you none. Hence if you had read the TOS you'd have seen that this is the kind of one sided contract that begs a lawsuit. For very often you have given up virtually all your rights.
Read carefully. The words you are looking for are 'Copyright' and provisions which basically state that you have no rights.
Do Not Join These Sites.
They will often pay a pittance for your work and then syndicate it all over the world and make the bag. You have nothing to say nothing to get.
Too many writing sites treat writers as dime a dozen day labourers who should be happy to see their name in print.
Until the first lawsuit, this is going to be the situation if you allow it.
The Pitfalls and the Power
On sites, such as Factoidz, you have no rights. They will take your work, publish it, and will pay you well, at first to gain more work.
They will promote you to 'Staff' writer, and once you have made about one hundred posts, arbitrarily drop your status to writer. When you remonstrate, your are descended to 'Member' so that you can not even see how much revenue your work is gathering and are NOT PAID for your own work.
You have no recourse, save lawsuit to stop them from using your work and NOT paying you.
Of course, since your work in in your Bank, and that copy predates the item on their site, you immediately begin publicising your work; Stumble, Digg, Reddit, link it on Message Boards, etc. Factoidz would have no recourse, although, of course, they would be raking in your revenue which they use to pay other writers.
This is how they can afford to pay more than other sites.
Writing sites as Helium which demand you write about what they want you to write about should be avoided.
Firstly, you will be doing unpaid work. There is a difference between you deciding to write about growing roses and you having to do a few hours of research to write an article about growing roses.
Secondly, they play a competition game where you and a batch of others write articles of their choosing and then they select the article they will publish, meaning you've done two hours or more free work that is in the garbage.
If they do select your work they pay a pittance for it, then make thousands.
What you do
Firstly, read the Terms of Service. See exactly what you get and what you lose.
Secondly, as said before, create your Bank. In this way, any site which attempts to capture your work is plagiarising your Blog.
There are, as of this mornings Google, 42M hits to 'Online Writing', hence there is no shortage.
Some sites, i.e. Triond and Bukisa pay very little but you retain the rights to your work. You can post anything you want on Triond. Bukisa is more selective. When you decide to edit or remove an article you have the right, (just as you do here).
Join sites which do not tamper with your copyright, allow you to delete and edit as you desire.
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Great information, thank you.
The earings from Triond is not that bad, since they allow Google Adsense as well.
I wish I had known more about what the terms of service meant, before I started looking for sites to write on. I had no idea what importance 'first rights' versus 'second' rights were.
I have come across several 'writing sites' that promote how they only publish the highest quality writers. They don't even pay the writers! They just make a huge deal out of the fact that "if your writing meets our standards, you will be published!" Some of those sites are so add filled, one can hardly find the articles.
Thanks for writing this article qeyler. I'm curious, would having emailed my own copies to myself up to at least a year earlier than posting them on Factoidz be just as good as having them in a blog somewhere?
I do consider my email account where I sent to myself to be part of my work place or workspace. Heck, this is the main reason for me even buying a computer, it is my work computer.
Also, I am interested in learning more about this civil suit against Factoidz. If anyone knows much more about it or who to contact, please let me know.
Thank you,
Sara Valor
By the way, I am in the process of building a group area for any Factoidz writer who have found they have been taken advantage by the Factoidz website and Mike Quoc, owner of Factoidz.
If you are a Factoidz writer who needs a place to vent, rant, rave and then work along side the rest of us to resolve this problem, please let me know.
Hi qeyler, he's just changed me to a generic user. I won't be able to get anything from that site now. If you check out some of my articles, he has them listed under the user name cs29.
This is listed under the title, but if you go down to the bottom you will find my copyright notice on each of them, they will be there until he deletes my copyright notice himself.
Ooops forgot the links this one is listed as cs29
http://factoidz.com/teeth-whitening-is-a-personal-
This is the category link, you can see more of my work there under his generic name
Anything you send to cs29, will go straight to Mike Quoc of Factoidz, it will not come to me.
He just removed them, Thank God!
People, seriously, you need to think not only twice about joining Factoidz, but three times and then move on. This is more trouble and heartache than it is worth to get things right with this site.
If you don't believe me, use the search engines, there are too many people from all over the world singing the same song.
Wonder why that is?
Thanks qeyler, We have people on it right now. Thank you for your help, since this will help prevent other freelance writers from falling into the Factoidz scam trap.
oops, sorry for the extra post
Thank you for standing up about this attack. I'm not really worried about it. I'm a 50 year old woman who has already proved who she is as well as built a character that is genuine. I didn't do that by telling lies on people or circumstances and I didn't do that by stealing from others.
Besides, if what he is saying was the truth of the matter, I'd not have my back pressed so hard up against that door. If what he is saying was the actual truth, I'd have done like any other person and simply walked away with my tail between my legs and kept my mouth shut.
However, if anyone simply does some searching on Google, Bing, Yahoo and any other search engine, they will find that this same song has been sung by many more people before I ever got done dirty like they were.
The reason for his attack is he knows how well my social networking is, I am the squeekiest wheel, because what has been done is Wrong and that wheel will not run over me, it'll run over someone who has done wrong.
Thanks for listening qeyler and thank you for telling the truth, just like so many other people, freelance writers are doing now about this situation.
The freelance writers are not the bad guys here.
Thanks so much for the information. It is a shame that writers are so ill-treated. It makes me angry when sites want to keep the rights to my work and offer a mere pittance for it.
From experience, I can say that if you find your articles syndicated on a different website, simply click their contact us button and send them a message explaining that you are the author of the article and that you are no longer affiliated with that site and then ask them to either remove your work or offer to allow them to use it with the condition that they remove the old link and reference to the site and replace it with your own link to a blog or webpage you want your work linked too.
This is what I did, one never contacted me back, but they did remove the article and the link back to the old site. The others messaged me back and were more than willing to give me due credit and a link back to my blog without any reference to the old site mentioned at all.
Then since I am not making any money with that article, I offer to bookmark that particular page and then promote my article on their site and they are thrilled as well, which is great I think. They get to keep a good article and get the traffic I send that way by promoting my bookmark. I make a little money from the bookmark. So, I'm cool with it.
(BTW I think that the new rule about social networking on that site is because I could drive anywhere from 1800, 2000 to sometimes even 3000 viewers to that site by simply retweeting my own articles in a days time. I could do it daily and there would be thousands of new views, but who has the time to retweet 221 articles daily? I have other work to do.)
Most definitely, I do agree that this is excellent advice and the info needs to be available for the benefit of other freelance writers who need to know about protecting yourself on writing sites.
Thank you for the great blog and helpful comments. If you have a Facebook page, I would be interested in following.
This is really helpful information. I now know what to avoid.












Petra Vlah Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago
I wish I knew more about writing sites before getting involved with the worst of them all – Helium (that will not let you delete your articles or make changes (unless they approve those changes?!) not to mention their terrorist tactics on silencing “the dissident” who will protest their censorship on the forums.
To have some of my work deleted by them (the only way to prevent them to keep on using my articles and make money), I intentionally inserted some profanities and than ask friends to report me.
No writer’s site will make anyone real money, so it remains a question of posting for the pleasure of sharing (my reason for being on Hub Pages – did not sign for AdSense since I consider this type of payment to be not only ridiculous, but offensive).
Thank you for making people aware of what they are getting into.